SoftNA - Corrupt project on panel reboot/power loss

[SKA AB]

Hi.

Is there anything one can do, so the softna project wont go corrupt if the panel is power cycled?

We're currently building the system and sometimes stuff needs to be power cycled, and nobody powers off the panel before hitting the main switch.

[kckku]

Is this a problem with power cycling? How do you recover? We are also thinking of using the Soft-NA for an upcoming project so this will be good to know before we commit.

[photovoltaic]

Sorry, so you're looking for someone with a soft-na to test a hard reset for project corruption?

 

I have a license

[photovoltaic]

Did a quick test. I found that:

The project was not corrupted in anyway

The most recent trend data was lost. How much data will depend on the settings for your trending

There were a few warnings at startup that you just click OK on and the application loads.

[SKA AB]

1 hour ago, kckku said:

Is this a problem with power cycling? How do you recover? We are also thinking of using the Soft-NA for an upcoming project so this will be good to know before we commit.

Yes this is during a power cut on the panel/computer with the SoftNA on.

When it boots bak up and starts SoftNA, then it says project is corrupted.

 

In the start meny under omron folder, click on the soft na folder and in there you have a project clearer software to clear it up, then you just re-download from sysmac.

 

[SKA AB]

1 hour ago, photovoltaic said:

Sorry, so you're looking for someone with a soft-na to test a hard reset for project corruption?

 

I have a license

Me? No, i was looking for a solution not making my soft na say the project is corrupt in an event of power loss on the panel the softna is installed on.

 

[photovoltaic]

25 minutes ago, SKA AB said:

Me? No, i was looking for a solution not making my soft na say the project is corrupt in an event of power loss on the panel the softna is installed on.

 

I was unable to recreate this. I am running it on a laptop and I can't remove the battery so not a true power loss I suppose.

[panic mode]

not familiar with the product but using backup UPS is one common way to deal with power loss.

the other is to use a startup script and overwrite project by clean copy before launching software that uses it. 

[Crossbow]

I have use Soft-NA for months and powered off PC many times, never had a program corruption issue.

[SKA AB]

10 hours ago, Crossbow said:

I have use Soft-NA for months and powered off PC many times, never had a program corruption issue.

This is wierd.

Its a brand ned beckhoff computer and a touch screen connected to it.

Running win 10 of some kind, new softna installation with current latest version.

Downloading like normal to the computer, but a power loss corrupts the hmi project files..

[pturmel]

Is it embedded Win10?  Does it have the "write filter" technology enabled?  If so, you'll need to disable that for writes to survive a power cycle.  (But turn it back on when the setup is stable--it protects against malware and other corruption causes.)

[SKA AB]

21 hours ago, pturmel said:

Is it embedded Win10?  Does it have the "write filter" technology enabled?  If so, you'll need to disable that for writes to survive a power cycle.  (But turn it back on when the setup is stable--it protects against malware and other corruption causes.)

Hi.

The beckhoff computer is running Win 10 Enterprise LTSB.

No filter activated to my knowledge. But since yesterday, the project does not seem to get corrupt anymore.