Chris Elston Posted April 18, 2006 Report Posted April 18, 2006 Have anyone ever seen Keyence's 24VDC sensor test box that had speaker clips on it with three 9 volts inside. You could slap your 24VDC sensor on this box and also connect it to an LED output. Is that availible anymore? Or was that strictly a give away a long time ago. Anyone ever built your own sensor test box? I just have a question about the LED output. The LED's I bought are 3.3 volt with 20ma. So I am thinking all I need is 1.2K ohm resistor in series with a photoeye output to make my own box. Anyone back me up on that? I also double checked here: http://led.linear1.org/1led.wiz Does that sound correct? 24 VOLTS 3.3 volt LED 20mA current draw Limiting resister I need 1.2 Kohms Quote
Beuwolf_1 Posted April 18, 2006 Report Posted April 18, 2006 I know that SICK makes test boxes that are for sale, as well as AB, but I am not sure of the part number. I would just make my own anyway just like your doing. Quote
Smoke Posted April 18, 2006 Report Posted April 18, 2006 I'm thinking Banner and Keyence are interchangable? Try this link. http://www.baneng.com/products/photoelectr...rsupplies/dbq5/ Quote
gravitar Posted April 18, 2006 Report Posted April 18, 2006 I've got the banner one (as pictured), it is a pretty nicely-engineered unit. I've also got an A-B battery box that, just as the name implies, is two 9V batteries in series with a couple spring clips on top. (18VDC is sufficient to power most sensors) For what they charge for these (at last check the Banner one was about $80) I'd just make my own. Doesn't look that hard at all. If fact, in most cases all you really want is a DC power source anyway, so just look for a 12-24VDC wall wart and splice a prox cord(s) onto the end. We've got one like that at work, with a mini, micro, and pico cable stub all in parallel so just about any sensor can be checked. Quote
Jamie571 Posted April 19, 2006 Report Posted April 19, 2006 I have the banner and the turck one, both were given to me by salesmen. Me or one of my controls techs uses them many times a day. They verify all sensors to check for placement before I debug my programs. I had to purchase a turck micro to pico connector as almost all sensors I use have this connector now. Quote
Bob O Posted April 19, 2006 Report Posted April 19, 2006 If I need to test a sensor I use a single 9 volt battery wired up to a M12 and this has worked fine every time, at least with Sick sensors. Quote
IO_Rack Posted April 19, 2006 Report Posted April 19, 2006 Omron makes one as well. It also checks fibers. E39-VX Beam Checker Quote
panic mode Posted April 19, 2006 Report Posted April 19, 2006 well if it's going to make life easier for anyone, this is what was inside one I had chance to open: Quote
Chris Elston Posted April 19, 2006 Author Report Posted April 19, 2006 Thanks alot guys. I am in the process of making my own. I went to Rat Shack and picked up all the parts I need for under $20 bucks. I'll post a picture when done. Quote
Chris Elston Posted April 19, 2006 Author Report Posted April 19, 2006 Ok so I am in a bit of a hurry so I can setup a test sensor, but I made this with under $20.00 parts from RAT Shack and about 30 minutes. I would RECOMMEND a bigger box for the batteries. This one is TOO small, but everything fit ok. When I get back to work, I'll add a M12 Micro and M8 Pico cord to it. Should be easy for quick disconnect sensors. Thanks guys! I ended up using different LED's that are 1.7 volts and 20mA. So at 18 Volt supply instead of 24V (27V with three 9V), I ended up figuring a 815 ohm resistor, (source 18V - 1.7v LED / 0.02A) I just went with a 1K ohm just to be safe. Three 9V would not fit in my box anyway.... Quote
panic mode Posted April 21, 2006 Report Posted April 21, 2006 cool, just that black ink is kinda hard to read, i almost missed +,-, PNP and NPN signs... i wouldn't worry too much about bringing LED current to 20mA. this is usually maximum they can take in continuous duty (you might want to save the batteries too). 5-15mA will work too and specially with newer LEDs brightness difference will not be significant. human senses are not quite linear. Quote
Chris Elston Posted May 7, 2006 Author Report Posted May 7, 2006 Just a little update, you'll want to add an on/off switch, because the two resistors drain the batteries after a while with a DUAL NPN or PNP setup like the above diagram. Quote
BobLfoot Posted May 7, 2006 Report Posted May 7, 2006 (edited) If you are at RAT Shack they have a nice N.O. Momentary pushbutton that would fit in your kit box. I say N.O. Momentary so that you don't forget and turn the tester off. You could even label the button "IN WHITE INK" <Push to Test>. LOL LOL. Edited May 7, 2006 by BobLfoot Quote
Chris Elston Posted May 7, 2006 Author Report Posted May 7, 2006 Too late... Here are the FINAL mods. Still under $20.00 at RAT SHACK parts! Some scrap M12 and M8 QD cables, good to go! Nice box now.... Quote
BobLfoot Posted May 7, 2006 Report Posted May 7, 2006 You added a green LED Does that mean you changed wiring or used the green for a power on LED? Quote
TimWilborne Posted May 8, 2006 Report Posted May 8, 2006 Mickey needs to make a comment on your table like he did on THIS post. Your middle picture reveals you covered it with drawing paper. Now why didn't I think of that? He can paint your table for a price Quote
Chris Elston Posted May 8, 2006 Author Report Posted May 8, 2006 Here is the updated drawings, taken from panic_mode.... Also attached a PDF below. - testerbox.pdf Quote
Chris Elston Posted May 8, 2006 Author Report Posted May 8, 2006 Here is a shot of my bench at home in my office just moments ago..... Maybe I could get him to paint it for me??? Quote
TimWilborne Posted May 8, 2006 Report Posted May 8, 2006 I recommend Mickey. Did a great job on mine Quote
TimWilborne Posted May 8, 2006 Report Posted May 8, 2006 But jokes aside this is a great test unit. I'm going to build me one. 5 points for engineering Quote
TimWilborne Posted May 8, 2006 Report Posted May 8, 2006 Actually I have to admit I'm a little jealous of Chakorules workbench. It looks to have some solid wood under it. Mines just sheet metal. I want one Quote
panic mode Posted May 10, 2006 Report Posted May 10, 2006 looks very nice. i don't see M8 4-pin connector (common on photoeyes), but this should be no problem with the speaker terminals... Quote
Chris Elston Posted May 11, 2006 Author Report Posted May 11, 2006 We use 99% M12 Micro style for photoeyes. M8 for Prox switches. I suppose for someone else, if they are making it, they can do what ever they need too. Turned out great in the end I think. Thanks for the help! Quote
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