lazy Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 Hi All I am looking for a bit of beginners help... I am currently starting to build quite a few small panels but I have to purcahse the labels from a larger panel builder. I am looking for some reccomendations for a computerised label printer. Obviously being a small company I am looking for a reasonably priced unit. Thanks all
neildobson Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 Not sure what type of labels you're looking for but we've just invested in a printer from partex. This machine does most things from wire markers to component labeling, cable identifications etc. The machine uses various tapes, tubes, heatshrinks etc. for loads of marking tasks. The only thing it doesn't do is label plates for the panel doors. For this we use a local signmaker. Hope this helps.
panic mode Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 what kind of labels? warning labels for panel door (voltage, machine name, serial number...)? cable and wire lables? ring labels for buttons and lamps? lockout labels and tags? either way contact both Panduit and Brady. they will have everything your need...
Atlascycle Posted July 15, 2006 Report Posted July 15, 2006 I have the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 and while the price is god and you can use it for more that just labeling wires it is not good to mark a lot of wires. The backing is 2 piece and kind of a pain to peel and stick the wire markers on.
lazy Posted July 15, 2006 Author Report Posted July 15, 2006 Hi Guys Thanks for the help... I should have been more clear I was actually after a lbel machine for panel door labels...i.e. Labeling pusbuttons, indicator lamps etc. on the panel door. Thanks again
IamJon Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 my company uses autocad connected to a hermes (new hermes) engraving machine. they can be very pricey to purchase and service. a sevice call can cost up to $500 just to come out to look at it. i would look into other engraving brands if i were you. i may recommend for now just ordering your signs elsewhere until your company sees more growth and the investment is more reasonable. or check ebay for used equipement.
ssommers Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 For plastic pushbutton & light labels, I usually farm it out to a local engraving shop. I don't do machine upgrades often enough in this plant to warrant buying the equipment. They end up being about $3 each & I get them in about 1 week.
Sleepy Wombat Posted July 18, 2006 Report Posted July 18, 2006 Yeh a local signmaker is the best shot....i reckon the the larger board builder would be doing that also....
forqnc Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 Being that my Company is Scrooge like, I have used Avery Mailing/Address labels to improve my Panel Labeling. They have free software that runs with Word. Hey what can I say, my company is cheap and this is an improvement on a sharpie marker.
Ron_Smith Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 Oh the horror. Why not find out the manufacturer of your pushbuttons and give your local rep. a call? He can specify the right label to go with your style of pushbuttons and even custom engrave whatever you wish.
forqnc Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 I agree, pushbutton markers we use the generic, stop/start/e.stop that manufacturers provide. I use the labels for naming timers/temp controllers to make things easier for the operator. Unfortunately I do not control the purse strings
Ron_Smith Posted July 20, 2006 Report Posted July 20, 2006 I purchased the Brady IDXPERT last year and couldn't be happier. As for the sharpie marker, I'd be lying if I said nothing in my plant was labeled that way .
larry818 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 I have the front door silkscreened. It costs me about $150 for a medium sized panel, but I can do a lot with the graphics (outline grouped controls, for example). It ends up being way cooler than engraving / labels / sharpie.
TimWilborne Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 Does anyone one use reverse engraved labels? I like them because you can just wipe them off since the face is smooth. You don't have to dig the buildup out of the letters like on traditional engrave labels.
larry818 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 (edited) This is the popular way in Taiwan. They actually have a piece of plastic the size of the front door reverse engraved. I always thought it looked cool, but they have many shops available to do this kind of work on the cheap. I used to work at a place that would laminate the panel. They printed (plotted) the entire front panel and hot rolled it onto the door. The adantage of this and silkscreenin' is that you can also print the centers of the holes. Makes locatin' the holes way easier. The same is true of the whole-door plastic panel. What I've never seen anyone else do is use a deep throat punch to make the door holes. I have this: http://roperwhitney.com/images/No134.jpg Way easier than the greenlee stuff. I also have this for smaller panels: http://roperwhitney.com/images/m14-1.jpg Edited August 1, 2006 by larry818
bob1371 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 Larry, would you by chance have any pics of the silkscreened panels? thanks, Bob
TimWilborne Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 Looks like a normal Piranha to me. Where did you find the punch and die? I don't work in a panel shop anymore but it is a great idea. That way you don't have to have a machine just for punching holes.
larry818 Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 I haven't made a panel in years that had more than a power switch, light, and touchscreen on the door.
Snerkel Posted August 4, 2006 Report Posted August 4, 2006 (edited) In the past I have used illuminated pushbuttons (with and without lamps). I then print laminated labels using a Brother P-Touch on laminate with clear background. The labels are cut to fit inside the pushbutton. I can generally create a symbol or get enough words in to convey use of button and it looks cool when illuminated. Edited August 4, 2006 by Snerkel
larry818 Posted August 15, 2006 Report Posted August 15, 2006 What I really want is an inkjet printer that can print directly on the panel door, with fairly hig res (300dpi). It seems I could convert a banner printer to do this, provided the door is flat enough.
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