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Problem: I am getting a control sync fault on 2 recently installed kinetix 5500 but only when my programing PC is connected to the machine network. Install and setup all went great over a 5 day period. Then all of a sudden I started to get this fault. Sometimes 100 times in an hour. As soon as I go offline, and unplug my PC the problem goes away. I have also tried another PC connected to the Machine network and still get the same result. Sometimes machine can run for hours with my PC connected with no problem. I do not have to be online with controller for fault to occur. Setup: I have the 2 K5500's ethernet ports daisy chained together, and then connected via shielded CAT 6 cable directly to port 2 of the Compact Logix Controller Coarse Update is set to 3.5ms and utilization's are at 33% and below.(I have tried the default 2ms with same results) Ethernet modules are configured with FW rev 7.013. Machine network is isolated.(not connected to plant network or internet) Equipment: Compact logix L33ERM Running version 30.01. There are a total of four servos in this system all running over ethernet. 2 Kinetix 350's(not affected), and 2 kinetix 5500's. I have tried: separate ethernet cables for each drive ran through a switch different ethernet cables resetting coarse update speed connecting a different PC for programming I am just not sure where else to go with this. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Hi guys! I have several questions connected to kinetix 6000 servo amplifiers. I have a system with AB plc and AB kinetix servo drive. The communication is sercos. Earlier I was worked drives with ethernet communication. I think its better, I could monitor the parmeters durnig as its works. But with the sercos communication I am no longer to be able to do it. One of my question is that like it is possible to check the parameters somehow. I have some problem myabe with the overcurrent recently. But for now I even cant see what is the limit. Is it possible to find it somewhere ? Also when Im watching the parameters in the RSlogix 5000 which is belongs to the servo drive. I can see a row like (servoname)axis fault code and (servoname) axis code. Is there any table where I can see which number belongs to which fault or status? If anyone can help me I just appreciate ahead. Thanks Guys.
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Hello all, I have 3 kinetix 5500 drives connected in series but some how the 3rd drive lost power. all the fuses in the cabinet look good. nothing else is tripped either. any advice is appreciated. thank you
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Hi, Can someon help me with the following question. Like what makes a Kinetix 6000 drive a Guarded drive ? What type of safety stuff can you set to make it more safe. Is it some parameter ? I am bit confused, by the manual. Should I active it in the PLC program or how ? Or it is some setting like a safe speed or torque. I would really appreciate any help. Thank you so much ahead. Have a great day, thanks for the reading.
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Hi, I am quite newbie in the PLC world but I got my hand on a Kinetix 5500 (model 2198-Hxxx-ERS2) with a VPL-A0631E-C motor. I also have a CompactGuard logix 5380 to program it. I am doing a "for fun" project to experiment and learn how the devices work. My first question is about power wiring. In my understanding from the manual, the Kinetix 5500 main power can be configured as three-phase or single phase (Using the L1, L2, L3, GND connector - think is called IPD). In my home I have a classic 220V (EU) socket. Is there a way to connect the Kinetix directly to my socket? I tried a few random stuff like L1 -> L , L2 -> N or L1 -> N , L3 -> L, (GND -> GND) but every time the circuit would break. (Actually, I had one lucky attempted where the circuit did not fail with L1 -> L , L2 -> N, and I managed to operate the motor, but when I reconnected it again it failed. Am quite buffled about the issue here. I am using a socket splitter if that something to comment on.) The second question is about purchasing an actuator. I found many interesting stuff like index tables or linear actuators. I requested a few quotes from some vendors but the price range they provided is a bit off budget for me (the majority was more than 2k). I am looking for some thing to attach to the motor in a price range of 1k - 1.5k. Do you have any suggestions for me? There are no load requirements. I just need to have a moving part so that I can for example put a barcode sticker on it and change the behaviour reading on that. I could attach something handmade but I am willing to put something extra to buy commercial equipment. As I am new to this, feel free to comment any inaccuracies or misconceptions. Happy to learn.
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I am looking for how others have set up vertical axis motions using the Kinetix 5700 servo system. I have a 2 axis pick/place unit with a horizontal axis (X @ 2500mm) and vertical axis (Z @ 1200mm) that works as designed during normal operation. X axis has no holding brake and Z axis has a factory installed 24vdc to unlock brake. There is a GuardLogix L81ES control system that handles the safety and control. On pressing E-stop/opening Gates the vertical axis will stop the motion, apply the brake and hold with no problems. (2198-D032-ERS3 Drive, 2198-P031 Bus Power, MPL-B430P-MJ72AA X Axis, MPL-B330P-MJ74AA Z axis) The issue that I ran into was an accidental download of the program without activating the e-stop and the vertical axis dropped unexpectedly when entering program mode on the processor. I am aware that this instance was my fault as the programmer, however I am also concerned that this might occur again in the future if the controller ever enters fault mode or someone else completes a download. I have done some investigation with the "ProgrammedStopMode" parameter on this single motion axis and attempted all 5 options and the vertical axis still has a free fall drop for a second before the brake grabs hold - so evidently this is not working for me. (Page 24 of Vertical Load/Holding Brake manual - https://literature.rockwellautomatio...t003_-en-p.pdf) I am curious if there needs to be something done elsewhere as the X and Z axis are set up as coordinated axis? I also am unaware if I need to preform some action/parameter with the bus power supply for this? The current state of the machine as it sits now is preforming a MSF in manual mode after 5 seconds of inactivity or 30 seconds in auto mode. This axis is usually in demand every ~22 seconds. This will shut down the axis after preforming a brake test on the vertical load and seems to function OK, however it is still in the back of my mind the issues mentioned previously if we ever enter a controller fault while indexing. Thanks for your insight
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Hello everyone, I have a Kinetix 6000 CIP drive (unwind) and I need to control its speed by a PID controller. I have everything working except the MCD instruction doesn't pick up on the PID output value change. It changes the JOG speed, which I use to control the unwind, if I set the speed manually, which is slow. The PID changes the speed almost continuously. Any suggestions are welcome. This is how I'm attempting to control the speed: A1_r_JogSpeed = PID output value Thank you
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Hi, Can anyone advise on how to upgrade the firmware on Kinetix 3 drives (2071-AP8 Series A)? There is a firmware update option in Ultraware, but when I try that it says something like f/w version does not support upgrade. Is it actually possible to upgrade them at all? You can download new versions from the AB website, which suggests it must be possible. They currently have v2.00, and latest version is v2.23. I know these are old drives, but they still work so might as well get some use out of them. Thanks, James.
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Hi, I'm fairly new to motion applications and I have an interesting (to me) problem to solve. I'm using Kinetix 5700 with MPL motors to drive a pick&place carousel and a conveyor belt. I have a virtual master that driver the carousel in 1:10 ratio. The virtual master also drives the conveyor belt, the ratio is given by the carousel diameter and the conveyor driving cylinder diameter + 2x the belt thickness. And I'm using MAJ to drive the master and the MAG instruction to drive the carousel and the conveyor. This all works well. BUT: the carousel does not pick the product in the same place every time. That creates irregular gaps, or pitch, between the product on the conveyor which causes some issues down the line. Is there a way how to superimpose a value to the conveyor axis to ensure the pitch is regular at all times. Something like the ADDAX instruction it Trio motion controller for example? I'd want to have a sensor that detects the edge of the product and compares he encoder value to an expected value and slows downs or speeds up the conveyor accordingly. Thanks a milion.
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Hell PLC World! I have been trying for several weeks in my spare time at work to tune an Allen Bradley Servo Motor. Below is the list of hardware I am currently using: - CompactLogix Motion Controller (1780-L33ERM) - Kinetix 350 Driver (2097-V34PR5-LM) - MPL Series Rotary Servo Motor (MPL-B310P-MJ74AA) I have been using RSLogix5000 for testing and I plan to use it to develop a simple conveyor type program later. I have tried a list of things which will be below, but to no avail, I cannot simply jog the motor for any period of time without triggering a position, velocity or bus voltage error. I have tried changing the motor, driver and feedback cable to no avail. Here is the process I have used: 1) Add the hardware to RSLogix5000 (PLC, Driver and Motor) 2) Configure the motor 3) Run the hookup test. This works flawlessly. The motor will slowly turn independently on the feedback test for as many revolutions as I input. This is what makes me think I am doing something wrong in the tuning process. 4) Run autotune process with the velocity, acceleration and jerk set well below the limits of the hardware. 5) Attempt manually control motion 6) Recieve error I have tried changing the input from trapezoidal to S-Curve, changed velocity and position limits, manually tuned velocity gains in a myriad of configurations. I have swapped legs on the 3 phase input (which made matters worse). I suppose it is possible that multiple pieces of hardware are faulty because this equipment was previously used, but I still cannot wrap my head around why the hookup test would work so flawlessly, yet I cannot just get the servo to rotate at an equivalently low speed. If anyone recognizes my mistake, I would be eternally grateful. I am an intern studying control systems in graduate school and as popular as AB is, I would sure like to get some experience with it. Thanks in advance!
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Hi all. I have a Kinetix 350 and an AB TLY servo motor. I'm using the drive's STO function. AC power is supplied into the drive, passing through an "M1" contactor. It makes sense to m e to keep that contactor open, preventing AC power to the drive, until the drive is fully awake. Is that what you guys do? Someone suggested to me in another forum ( http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/showthread.php?t=121021&highlight=drive+awake ) that there is no reason not to supply power to the drive right away because the STO function is inhibiting power to the motor anyway.
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Hi Guys! Anybody Can help me ? I have a kinetix 6000 servo, and that axis dont want to go in home position. There is an MSO instruction, but the ER bit is active. What should I do ? What would be the problem? Thanks in advance!
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Is there a real-time help resource for this thing other than the worthless AB site, on which the support page has been giving an error message for 2 weeks?
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Hi guys, been using this site for a long time, it has come in handy alot. However I have recently taken on my first servo project, heres an overview of the project We have a filling machine that has a separate dosing system to the filler head. It used to keep the dosing in time by adjusting a 0-10v signal to an inverter to make sure that a flag makes a sensor in a set window. I have installed an encoder on the filling head and an mpl servo to the dosing. I have then used an MAPC instruction to follow the encoder, the cam is 0-360 and it follows a straight linear line. I have installed of this as a temporary set up on one of the filling machines (we have 2) and it is working perfectly. I have now installed this on the second machine as a permanent set up with a panelview plus 7, L71 cpu. However it is giving a very strange problem on first power up, the encoder is giving the exact same position as before it was powered down. however as soon as the MAPC executes the servo axis faults, giving an overspeed fault. the servo doesnt even look like its attempting to move (however it is through a 10-1 gearbox). if i then home the encoder it then runs absolutely perfectly until it is powered down again. I am beginning to think it may be to do with the master lock and cam lock position, as the cycle stop position of the two machines are different. however I just cant seem to get my head around i the difference between them. Hopefully that makes sense any help would be greatly appreciated Thanks Rhys c1_dosing.ACD
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Hello All, I'm completely new to the motion control systems and I'm interested in learning servo programming and motion control. I was trying to find a good resource that I can start learning from A-Z, but I couldn't find any. I have a demo kit with compactlogix processor and two kinetix 6500 drives with servo motors. What is the best way to learn it. If you guys have any resources or basic sample program please help me. Any learning material would be helpful. Thank You All
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should be an easy question.......have a machine with several AB Kinetix 350 servos......no problem gearing them together or gearing them to an Ether/IP encoder. can't seem to find any method to gear them to a local io encoder channel. any suggestions? thanks, bob